Czy Po Reformie Imigracyjnej Usa Stanie Się Drugim Meksykiem ?

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Plus w obecnej sytuacji nie sadze aby Obama nadstawil karku

W USA przebywa 30 milionow nielegali. W momencie jak odezwali sie biurokraci polityczni ze moze bedzie reforma

ilosc przekraczajacych rio grande dziennie wzrosla przynajmniej 50% natychmiast.

Zdrowa reforma jest bardzo potrzebna ale obecna administracja pie***li tak wszystko ze moze lepiej niech sie do niej nie biora,

bo bedzie ona glownie polegac na legalizacji nieleganych niczym innym, a tego wiekszosc US nie chce.

Wrecz przeciwnie poszczegolne stany zaczynaja kampanie scigania nielegalnych na wysoka skale

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...latestheadlines

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tez nie sadze ze jest naprawde wola politykow na dramatyczne zmiany. spoleczenstwo czuje sie ubogie, zmeczone problemami kraju i niepewnoscia o przyszlosc. to nie jest atmosfera w ktorej pomaganie imigrantom, zwlaszcza nielegalnym, jest mile widziana. a szkoda bo jak gal wspomina, przydaloby sie...

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Ariz. close to tougher immigration law

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36510687/ns/us...new_york_times/

a teraz co zrobia inne Stany

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Po malu biora sie i to ostro

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...LUpTrgD9F3NE8G0

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http://www.dziennik.com/news/swiat/10088

i faktycznie Prezydent moze chciec cos zrobic ale jesli nie bedzie i nie ma poparcia w partiach politycznych to nic z tego nie wyjdzie

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troche dlugie

widac ze Arizona bierze sie za nielegalnych:

The toughest anti-illegal-immigrant measure in a generation passed the Arizona legislature this week. If signed, as expected, by Republican governor Jan Brewer, the law will give local police sweeping new powers in regard to undocumented workers. Currently, immigration offenses are violations of federal, not state, law, and local police officers only can inquire about a person's immigration status if that person is suspected of another crime. Under SB1070, however, Arizona police will have the right to stop anyone on "reasonable suspicion" that they may be an illegal immigrant and can arrest them if they are not carrying a valid driver's license or identity papers.

Passions about illegal immigration run high in Arizona, a point of entry for thousands of undocumented workers going to the U.S. from Mexico, and tensions were heightened by the recent murder of a rancher in a remote border area where illegal crossings are rampant. With 6.6 million residents, Arizona's illegal-immigrant population is estimated to be half a million people. (See the great wall of America on the Mexico border.)

Both proponents and opponents of the law are vociferous. "This criminalizes undocumented status and turns dishwashers, janitors, landscapers and our neighbors into criminals," says Chris Newman, legal director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network. "The bill constitutes a complete disregard for the rights of nonwhites in Arizona. It effectively mandates racial profiling." But state senator Russell Pearce, a Republican, says his bill "will not change a thing for lawful citizens. It simply takes the handcuffs off law enforcement and allows them to do their job. Our legal citizens have a constitutional right to expect protection of federal law against noncitizens. When those laws are not enforced, our citizens are denied equal protection." (Will a biometric Social Security card help the immigration crisis?)

All 35 Republicans in the lower Arizona house voted for the bill, while 21 Democrats voted against it. The bill passed the state senate earlier. Law enforcement in the state is split over the legislation, with rank and file supporting the measure and the Association of Chiefs of Police in opposition, saying it could hinder investigations by making the immigrant community hesitant to speak with police.

Appalled at the bill's harsh sweep, immigrant advocates are promising court challenges. "This is the most far-reaching anti-immigration bill in memory and it turns the presumption of innocence on its head," says Alessandra Meetze, executive director of the ACLU of Arizona. "It singles out the failure to carry ID as a reason to believe you are an undocumented alien. What this means is that citizens will need to carry papers with them at all times. It means people like my mother, who has brown skin and an accent, can be arrested and detained until it is confirmed that they are legally in the country."

"This is the most anti-immigrant legislation the U.S. has seen since the House bill of 2005 which set off huge demonstrations across the country," says Newman. "The sheer breadth of this bill is going to alter the national discussion." He says the bill does four things: criminalizes undocumented status, enlists local police in illegal-immigration enforcement, allows citizens to sue police departments if citizens think the police are not being sufficiently vigilant in enforcement and forbids any city from ignoring the state law and becoming a so-called sanctuary zone. "That's before you get to racial profiling," says Newman, "because anyone who looks Latino or has an accent can be swept up, arrested and detained while their immigration status is verified."

Can the law stand up to scrutiny? "There are some things that states can do and some that states can't do, but this law threads the needle perfectly," says Kris Kobach, a University of Missouri–Kansas City School of Law professor who helped write the legislation. He believes it will withstand constitutional challenge. "In the bill, Arizona only penalizes what is already a crime under federal law," says Kobach, a Yale Law School graduate and onetime counsel to former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft. "That constitutes concurrent enforcement in legal terms, which the courts have said is permissible." Says Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a conservative think tank in Washington: "The rhetoric that this bill will create a police state is ridiculous. What this does is give police officers an extra tool in their tool kit."

"Enough is enough," says state senator Pearce, speaking about the increased violence along the Arizona border with Mexico. "One family has been burglarized 18 times and a number of officers have been killed and maimed in the line of duty dealing with illegal immigrants who are criminals. Our message is very clear," says Pearce. "Illegal aliens should find another state besides Arizona to visit."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100416/us_time/08599198226800

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Nie potrzebujemy kolejnych deklaracji polityków z Waszyngtonu o planach wprowadzenia reformy imigracyjnej – potrzebujemy konkretnych działań. Następnych kilka tygodni może się okazać rozstrzygające.

W ostatnich miesiącach członkowie Kongresu, przedstawiciele związków wyznaniowych i organizacje społeczne zwiększyły wysiłki, próbując wymóc na administracji Baracka Obamy wywiązanie się z wyborczych obietnic.

Zwolennicy reformy imigracyjnej zobowiązali przywódców w Senacie do wniesienia konkretnego projektu reformy imigracyjnej przed 1 maja. Jeśli projekt nie pojawi się szybko w Kongresie – zostanie zaprzepaszczona szansa przeprowadzenia ustawy przez proces legislacyjny w dającym się przewidzieć terminie.

http://www.dziennik.com/articles/edytorial/10197

McCain grozi zablokowaniem reformy imigracyjnej

http://www.dziennik.com/news/usa/10217

a tutaj tekst po polsku o Arizonie:

http://www.dziennik.com/news/usa/10181

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Imigranci odliczają do 1 maja: Senatorze Schumer zgłoś ustawę

Organizacje imigracyjne ogłosiły "10-dniowe odliczanie dla Schumera". Chcą w ten sposób wymusić na demokratycznym senatorze z Nowego Jorku formalne wniesienie pod obrady izby wyższej Kongresu obiecywanej ustawy o kompleksowej reformie imigracyjnej.

"Działacze proimigracyjni potępili także najnowszą ustawę legislatury w Arizonie penalizującą nielegalny pobyt w tym stanie oraz domagali się głośno zaprzestania kontynuacji masowych deportacji przez administrację Obamy. "

http://www.dziennik.com/news/metropolia/10270

no to czekamy na 1 maja ....

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A tymczasem w Arizonie it is the LAW now

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/on...igration-bill/1

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McCain - kiedys za reforma imigracyjna - dzis kontra. Ej...

W dzisiejszym NYT: Come Back John McCain

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/opinion/...ref=todayspaper